Green Bottom
23 Wednesday Apr 2014
Posted in Civil War
23 Wednesday Apr 2014
Posted in Civil War
22 Tuesday Apr 2014
Posted in Ed Haley
Tags
Ashland, Catlettsburg, Catlettsburg Stock Yard, Doc Holbrook, Ed Haley, Ella Haley, Great Depression, history, John Hartford, Kentucky, Lawrence Haley, life, Mona Haley, Ohio, Pat Haley, Ralph Mullins, South Point, Ward Hollow, writing
Pat, slowly becoming the interviewer, asked Mona how far back she could remember and she said, “As far back as I can remember was Halbert Street. I can remember going out in the rain and standing out in the rain while Mom and Pop was fighting or Pop was fighting Mom — which that was probably the way it was. But it takes two to make a fight or an argument. I don’t remember whatever started it. I just remember Pop being mean to Mom, and that was on 45th Street. And the next memory I have is at Ward Hollow. 337 37th Street, that was Ward Hollow. And the next one was at 17th Street. And the next one was back up on 45th Street.”
Pat said, “When they lived on 45th Street that time had to be about ’48, ’49.”
Mona agreed: “It was, because Ralph was a baby. My Ralph.”
Pat said, “Good or bad memories are you talking about?”
Mona kind of laughed and said, “They’re all bad but there had to been some good ones.”
I said, “Bad stuff is easiest to remember. Most history and everything is told in terms of bad things instead of good things. Usually, if you go along a highway, most highway markers that you see commemorate battles and tragedies.”
Mona said, “I remember some good times with Mom. I remember seeing a lot of movies.”
Pat said, “That’s what Larry said. Said you’d see movies while they played.”
Mona said, “Yeah. I can imagine how Mom worried, too. I couldn’t sit there with her. They didn’t let us go too far away.”
Mona said she mostly traveled with Ella as a girl but remembered going with Ed to Doc Holbrook’s office where she watched him reach into her father’s mouth with something that looked like a giant spoon and take out his tonsils. Ed said, “How long do I have to do this?” and Doc answered, “It’s over…” and then they started playing music.
I said, “Did your mom and dad usually play around a movie theatre?” and Mona said, “Seems to me like it might have been a block or two away from the movies but that wasn’t very far.”
I asked what kind of places Ed usually looked for when he first came into a town and she said, “Pop always looked for a courthouse square or a YMCA — something where they’d be a lot of people around. He played at the Catlettsburg Stock Yard a lot, him and Mom.”
We made small talk for a few minutes — the kind that often signals the end of a conversation — when Pat said to Mona, “What do you remember about your childhood other than those bad memories?”
“I remember Mom playing with me and me getting a wash pan and washing her face and her hands and her arms,” Mona said. “Just with Mom, you know. Lawrence and I would take turns doing dishes and cooking for Mom and Pop. I remember playing cowboys and Indians with the boys and they didn’t like me playing with them.”
Mona was apparently quite the tomboy when she was a young girl.
Pat said, “I told John about how harsh they were with you about keeping your dress down and sitting property.”
Mona said, “Yeah, they were. They was rough on me. There wasn’t any ‘Come here, let me have you,’ or no love. Always ‘You do this’ or ‘You do that.'”
Pat said she figured Lawrence had been right in on all that and Mona said, “Why, I’d a whipped Lawrence. You remember Mom sent Lawrence to get me one time — I don’t know where I was – and he said, ‘I can’t.’ She said, ‘Why?’ He said, ‘She can whip me.'”
Pat said, “I’ve heard Mom tell that story. And he used to tattle on you.”
Mona said, “Yeah, he did. But I don’t know if I tattled on him or not. I don’t remember.”
A little later, when they were teenagers, Lawrence was so overprotective of Mona that he cut one of her boyfriends with a knife trying to run him away from the house. Ed was also hard on her boyfriends; he called one of them a “raggedy-ass-son-of-a-bitch.”
Mona told me about her memories of Ed in his later years.
“He retired from playing…period. I remember one time on 45th Street. I came over from South Point, where I lived, and I tried to get Pop to play some for me and Mom said, ‘He’ll never play no more. He’s quit.’ It was a long time after the divorce.”
I asked her if Ed had his beard at that time and she said, “Yes. I used to shave him with a straight razor under his beard. Trim it. He shaved hisself most of the time, but once in a while I’d shave him.”
She said Pop seldom took baths.
“He said it was a waste of water. He was like that guy that said too much bathing will weaken you.”
21 Monday Apr 2014
Posted in Harts
21 Monday Apr 2014
Posted in Ed Haley
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Ashland, blind, Ed Haley, Ella Haley, history, Jack Haley, Kentucky, Lawrence Haley, life, Luther Trumbo, Mona Haley, Nellie Muncy, Noah Haley, Pat Haley, The Waltons, West Virginia, Williamson, writing
The more I played for Mona, the more Pat’s little dogs barked at me — especially when I got up and danced. Their commotion caused Mona to say, “We always had an animal. We used to have an old blue-tick hound named King and every time Pop would play the fiddle he’d howl. Uncle Luther gave him to Pop when I was a baby. I don’t know if it was as much Pop as it was Mom, but they all loved King. All of us did. He was smart. He was a good hunter. He taught all the dogs in the neighborhood to hunt. Everybody wanted to hunt with him — they come from miles around to borrow him to go hunting — and someone stole him one time and he was gone about a week and when he came back blood was running out of all four paws and he just flopped on the front porch. He had a broken-like front paw right here in the first joint. He was young then. We had him till he died. He growed old and died. I was about fourteen when he died — maybe thirteen.”
I wondered if Ed ever used a seeing eye-dog and Pat said no, although Ella did. She said the family had a pet dog named “Jaybird” when she married Lawrence.
I could tell that Mona was in the mood to talk, so I put my fiddle away and told her about our recent research on Milt Haley. When I told her that Milt appeared to have been an illegitimate son of Nellie Muncy, she immediately told me how Ed visited a family of Muncys around Williamson, West Virginia. Her memories of such trips were vague.
“I remember a place we had to go in an automobile so far and then we had to cross the river in a boat to get to where we was a going — in a rowboat — but I don’t remember where it was. It had to be in West Virginia somewhere. I remember a store building where we went and we slept upstairs over that store building. I remember Pop getting real mean and mad at Mom up there one night and I wanted to crawl under the covers and pull it on me. He was getting real nasty with her.”
I asked Mona what they were into it over and she said, “Sex, I reckon. He wanted it and she didn’t want it and he said he had to have it. That’s how nasty he was — but he didn’t say it in those nice words. My dad happened to be drinking that time, too, so it made it that much worse.”
Trying to lighten the memory, I told her that sex had been a sore spot with married couples for thousands of years.
Pat said what was remarkable about Mona’s memories was the fact that Lawrence had never said a bad word about his father.
“He never talked bad about Pop,” she said. “Of course, he was Momma’s boy.”
Mona said Ed only whipped her once.
“It was on my birthday and I was getting ready to cry and he said, ‘Four, five, six.’ That’s the only time he ever whipped me. I do remember a time that Jack and Noah got into a fight and they was young men. And Pop jumped up — he wore suspenders — and he had them down. He jumped up to part them and got a hold of each of them and his pants fell down. The fight stopped and we all started laughing.”
Pat said that happened at 1040 Greenup after she’d married into the family — “right out on the front porch.”
Mona added, “But he had long underwear on.”
That fond memory caused her to say, “You know, The Waltons remind me a lot of the way we were brought up. We had a pretty good family life. We’d tell each other good night and stuff. Lawrence and I usually slept with Mom.”
Pat said, “Scratch each other’s backs,” and Mona said, “Yeah.”
I asked if Ed came around and kissed every one goodnight at bedtime and Mona said, “No, no. Mom did. Pop didn’t. If she’d tell him to go see about one of us, why, he would.”
For entertainment, the family gathered around the radio or listened to Ed’s “wild stories.”
20 Sunday Apr 2014
Posted in Big Harts Creek, Culture of Honor, Harts, Lincoln County Feud
20 Sunday Apr 2014
Posted in Big Harts Creek, Cemeteries
Tags
Benjamin Adkins, Billie Brumfield, Brady Dingess, Charles Adkins, Cole Branch, Dick Adkins, Draxie Webb, Earl Black, Enoch Adkins, Enoch Adkins Jr., Garnet Willis, Harts Creek, Hollena Brumfield, Lace Adkins, Lincoln County, Mary Jane Brumfield, Maurice Adkins, Mayme Adkins, Minerva Adkins, Mollie Brumfield, Pearlie Brumfield, West Virginia, William Brumfield
The Charles Adkins Family Cemetery, which I visited on April 19, 2014, is located at the mouth of Cole Branch of Big Harts Creek in Lincoln County, West Virginia.
Row 1
Unmarked rock
W A on unmarked rock
Unmarked rock
Unmarked rock
Billie Brumfield, Jr. (20 February 1910-12 March 1955; s/o William “Bill” and Hollena “Tiny” (Adkins) Brumfield
Row 2
Hollena Brumfield (13 December 1873-11 December 1963); d/o Charles and Minerva (Dingess) Adkins; m. William “Bill” Brumfield
Brady Dingess (7 January 1917-30 January 1960); PFC 1330 BASE UNIT AAF WWII; s/o Tom “Stink” Dingess and Mary Jane Brumfield
Mary Brumfield (25 September 1897-November 1917); d/o William “Bill” and Hollena (Adkins) Brumfield; born September 1898; died 26 June 1917
Mollie Brumfield (8 April 1899-May 1917); d/o William “Bill” and Hollena (Adkins) Brumfield
Pearlie Brumfield (May 1895-1902); d/o William “Bill” and Hollena (Adkins) Brumfield; not listed in 1900 census
Bill Brumfield (2 July 1871-2 November 1930); s/o Paris and Ann B. (Toney) Brumfield; born July 1875
Garnet J. Willis (11 March 1909-26 September 1938); d/o William “Bill” and Hollena (Adkins) Brumfield; m1. Edward Miller; m2. Harvey Willis
Row 3
Mayme Adkins (March 1912-November 1913); d/o Stonewall “Dick” and Weltha (Dingess) Adkins
Lace Adkins (1916-1916); s/o Stonewall “Dick” and Weltha (Dingess) Adkins
Ward Adkins (10 October 1914-17 October 1914); s/o Charles “Reb” and Laura (Tomblin) Adkins
Charles Adkins, Sr. (1850-1922); s/o Isaiah and Mary Jane (Toney) Adkins; born March 1850; died 12 July 1919
Minerva Adkins (1852-1925); d/o Harvey S. and Patsy (Adams) Dingess; m. Charles Adkins; born November 1850; died 10 September 1920
Stonewall Adkins (18 June 1889-10 December 1936); named Richard “Dick” Adkins; s/o Charles and Minerva (Dingess) Adkins
Row 4
Enoch Adkins, Jr. (30 November 1933-30 November 1933); s/o Enoch and Cynthia (Moore) Adkins
Enoch Adkins (1881-1933); s/o Charles and Minerva (Dingess) Adkins; born November 1883; died 20 September 1933
Maurice Adkins (20 September 1928-25 December 1928)
Row 5
Benjamin Adkins (1881-1938); s/o Charles and Minerva (Dingess) Adkins; born 1 November 1880; died 18 July 1938
Draxie Webb (20 November 1929-29 June 1963); d/o Enoch Adkins and Emerine Browning
Up on Hill
Earl Black (1910-1956); s/o Nim Black and Martha Alford; died 15 November 1956
20 Sunday Apr 2014
Posted in Big Harts Creek, Ferrellsburg, Harts
20 Sunday Apr 2014
Posted in Ferrellsburg
Tags
Allen Bryant, Burns Chair Factory, Coon Tomblin, Emzy Petrie, farming, Ferrellsburg, Fisher B. Adkins, genealogy, George Fleming, history, James Gore, Jeff Burns, Lincoln County, Lincoln Republican, Logan County, Pumpkin Center, Richard Tomblin, Sol Riddle, Walt Stowers, West Fork, West Virginia
“Pumpkin Center Times Star,” a local correspondent from Ferrellsburg in Lincoln County, West Virginia, offered the following items, which the Lincoln Republican printed on Thursday, March 23, 1911:
The weather is fine at the present writing.
The farmers are hustling about getting ready to plant potatoes.
Walt Stowers is very ill with indigestion.
Richard Tomblin and his son, Coon, George Fleming and James Gore, of Pumpkin Center, were arrested a few days ago on a charge of grand larceny and confined in the Logan county jail to await the action of the grand jury. It is believed by many that they will have to serve a sentence in the penitentiary. Mr. Tomblin is a well known business man of this vicinity. He was one of the largest stockholders of the Burns Chair factory and was president of the firm when the arrest was made.
The stockholders of the Burns Chair Factory held a meeting last Saturday and elected J.W. Stowers, President. The business will start up at full blast in a few days.
Jeff Burn has just finished a fine dwelling house for Sol Riddle.
E.O. Petrie and F.B. Adkins have the hall about completed which will be occupied by the Golden Rule.
Allen Bryant has recently moved into the Petry and Adkins property.
20 Sunday Apr 2014
Posted in Culture of Honor
20 Sunday Apr 2014
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Ashland, Blackberry Blossom, Calhoun County Blues, Cherry River Rag, Come Take A Trip in My Airship, Dunbar, fiddling, history, John Hartford, John Lozier, Kentucky, Lawrence Haley, Man of Constant Sorrow, Mona Haley, music, Parkersburg Landing, Pat Haley, Ragtime Annie, writing
“Pop put a lot of emotions in his music,” Mona said. “He was real excited with his playing. He would put things in there that no one else would.”
She described Ed’s music as loud and lively — contrary to testimony from John Lozier and others — and told how it generated a great deal of excitement. She re-iterated that Ed had very little body movements when playing and seemed a little bothered by my energy when I played the fiddle — all the facial and head gestures, loud tapping, leg movements.
I asked her if Ed played much around home and she said, “When he was sad or when he was drinking or when he was happy he played — especially when he was happy.”
I wondered what made Ed happy.
“I don’t know,” she said. “Maybe hearing about a place to play or some money to be made. Music was his life. There wasn’t much about the family that made him happy. I mean, we was always fighting.”
In no time at all, Mona and I slipped into a familiar routine: me playing and asking things like “Did Ed play this?” or “Did Ed play it like this?” I played a lot of tunes for her — mostly ones I knew Ed played but also ones I had heard or suspected him of playing based on talking with Ugee Postalwait and Wilson Douglas and reading notes in the Lambert Collection.
When I played “Cherry River Rag”, Mona said, “I always loved that. Now that’s one that Pop put the slurs and insults in.”
Lawrence Haley had spoken of the “slurs and insults”, but I had never really figured out what they were. I had this theory that they were when Ed used tiny chromatic slides to create a modal and “slidey” note, thereby broadening and helping to achieve more of a “human voice effect” — much like vibrato does. This concept goes way back into Celtic history and may be much more a source for Blues than anything African. (Scholars have, incidentally, found no historical precedent for the Blues in the music of the continent of Africa.) I figured that Ed hit a little “dead” grace note beforehand which helped separate the notes in his long bow style. It is what the Irish call a “cut:” the finger on the grace note barely touches the string so as to give a good stop or separation.
As for the “slurs and insults,” Mona couldn’t seem to explain them either. I suggested listening to “Cherry River Rag” on Pat’s copy of Parkersburg Landing and having Mona point them out to me. We went into the living room and gathered around the record player. As “Cherry River Rag” played, Mona pointed out the slurs and insults. Basically, she described them as being when Ed slid a note for emphasis.
“Sounded to me, John, like when he was getting tired,” she said, back in the kitchen. “He was just wanting to get out of it as easy as he could.”
I asked if there were ever times when Ed would play and just slide the notes a lot and she said, “No, not unless he was drinking. He’d slide those notes a lot when he was drinking. Screech a lot when he was drinking — especially on those high keys.”
Mona loved it when I played “Man of Constant Sorrow”, saying, “Beautiful. That reminds me of Pop being sad. I love it, though. I wanted to tell you, they made a lot of requests, people on the street. They’d say, ‘Ed, play ‘Blackberry Blossom’. If he knew it, he’d play it. He had people dancing on the street, John. He could play forever.”
I played a variety of tunes for Mona that I thought Ed might have played but she only recognized one called “Wilson’s Jig”. She said her father played “Dunbar” a lot and recognized the melody for “Run Here Granny”. She said he made up the tunes “You Can’t Blame Me for That” and “Come Take A Trip in My Airship”. She said “Ragtime Annie” was one of her father’s “main attractions,” while “Birdie” sounded “very familiar.” She said Ed played “Old Joe Clark” and “Money Musk” and fiddled “Done Gone” in B-flat. She said something in my version of “Wild Hog in the Red Brush” was familiar, although she said she never heard Ed play anything with that title. When I played “Uncle Joe”, she immediately recognized the melody but not the title.
“See, I know so many of the tunes I’ve heard but I don’t know the title,” she said.
It was probably a little confusing for her to sit and listen while I assaulted her with a whole barrage of tunes, but I was so excited about picking her brain that I just kept playing.
She remembered Ed playing “Waggoner” and “Paddy on the Turnpike”, as well as the very similar “Snowbird on the Ashbank”. She recognized “Pumpkin Ridge”, “Old Joe Clark”, and “Money Musk”. She didn’t know the melody for “Brownlow’s Dream” but recognized the title, while she knew the melody for “Indian Squaw” but not the title. She said Ed never played “Orange Blossom Special” but did play “Listen to the Mockingbird” and even “made the bird sounds, too.”
When I played “Calhoun County Blues”, she said, “I’ve heard him play that lots. You put a lot more notes in it than what he did.”
18 Friday Apr 2014
Tags
Appalachia, art, Ed Haley, fiddling, history, John Hartford, Mona Haley, music
18 Friday Apr 2014
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Appalachia, Ashland, Curly Wellman, Dunbar, Ed Haley, Ella Haley, fiddling, Grand Ole Opry, history, John Hartford, Judge Imes, Kentucky, Mona Haley, music, Pat Haley, Ralph Haley, writing, You Can't Blame Me For That
After visiting Curly and Wilson, I went to Pat Haley’s and met Mona, who was waiting to see me. Mona and I sat down at the kitchen table, while Pat washed dishes. It was my first visit with Mona in some time. I told her about visiting Curly Wellman, hoping to stir a memory, but she didn’t even remember him. I pulled out his picture and she and Pat both really bragged on his looks.
“He must have been a hunk when he was young,” Mona said. “You know, I always fell in love with guitar players.”
We all laughed and things got kind of loud, which caused Pat’s two little housedogs, Shady and Josie, to bark furiously from under the table. A few seconds later, after Pat’s commands had calmed the dogs, Mona surprised me by saying that she had heard “all her life” that Curly was the person who taught her brother Ralph to play the guitar. (It was actually the other way around.)
I had a lot of questions for Mona, who was exuding an openness I had not seen up to that point. It was obvious that she was going to be more candid in Lawrence’s absence. Before I could ask anything, she apologized for having not been more helpful in my efforts to know about Ed. I quickly pointed out, though, that she had been helpful, especially in regard to “the family troubles.” That aspect of Ed’s life was really important because it likely helped to explain a lot of the rage and lonesomeness I heard in his music.
“I wasn’t really scared of Pop,” Mona said. “I loved Pop. I just didn’t like the way he done Mom. It hurt all of us kids, I guess. The earliest memories I got is of me running away from Pop fighting with Mom and that has a whole lot to do with me not getting close to him like I did my mother. I think my mother was a remarkable woman. She probably taught Pop a lot of that music, too.”
I told her what Lawrence had said about Ed and Ella getting a “bed and board divorce” and she said, “No, I remember Mom did divorce him because she got Judge Imes to do the divorce. I think she divorced him when we lived on 17th Street. I never looked at them as being divorced because they had long since stopped being man and wife before they divorced.”
I got some paper from Pat’s granddaughter and asked Mona to describe Ed’s residence at 17th Street. In addition to serving as Ed’s home at the time of his divorce from Ella, it was also the place where he made his recordings. Mona described the downstairs, then the upstairs where “there was two bedrooms and a bathroom. Large bedrooms.”
After I’d sketched everything out based on Mona’s memory, she said, “I was gonna tell you about that living room couch that you drew the picture of with the radio on the end of it. I went in one day and I was just a teenager or young kid and I turned on some jitterbug music. Pop was laying on the couch and he said, ‘Turn that off,’ and I said, ‘No Pop, I want to hear it.’ And he said, ‘Mona, I’ll cuss you all to pieces.'”
Speaking of radios, I wondered if Ed ever listened to the Grand Ole Opry.
“No, I don’t think so,” Mona said. “He listened to mysteries, like ‘The Shadow’ and ‘The Green Hornet’ and all that kind of stuff. And ‘Amos ‘n Andy’ and ‘Little Abner.’ ‘Lone Ranger’, I remember that. And those opera singers, he called them belly shakers.”
While I had the pen and paper in hand, I asked Mona to describe Ed’s house at Ward Hollow.
“Well, they was a porch, then a living room, dining room, and kitchen — straight back — and all the way down through here was another bedroom and hallway and another bedroom. Then in through here was a bathroom and back here was another bedroom. That’s where Pop slept. And right off the kitchen was another little porch.”
Mona said she could draw it better than describe it to me, so I gave her a pen and some paper. When she was finished, she seemed pleased with her effort, saying, “I might have a good memory after all.”
Satisfied, I got out my fiddle and played some tunes for Pat and Mona. After I finished “Dunbar”, I told them how I figured it was one that Ed made up.
“See,” I said, “I’ve got all these lists of tunes at home and lists of tunes on other tapes and so I look these tunes up and try to find out where they come from. And some of them you can research and some of them just ain’t there and those are the ones I think he wrote.”
Mona figured Ed made the tune “You Can’t Blame Me For That”:
My dog she’s always fighting, in spite of what she loves.
And when her little pups was born we all wore boxing gloves.
An old hen once was sitting on twelve eggs. Oh, what luck!
She hatched 11 baby chicks and the other was a duck.
But you can’t blame me for that, oh no, you can’t blame me for that.
If a felt hat feels bad when it’s felt, you can’t blame me for that.
I got the impression in watching Mona sing those words to me that she was able to picture Ed playing.
18 Friday Apr 2014
Posted in Ferrellsburg, Women's History
18 Friday Apr 2014
Posted in Big Creek, Big Harts Creek, Big Ugly Creek, Ferrellsburg, Toney
Tags
Big Creek, Brooke Adkins, Delia Adkins, Dollie Toney, Edna Brumfield, education, Ferrellsburg, genealogy, Guyan Valley Railroad, history, Irvin Workman, James Brumfield, Leet, Letilla Brumfield, Lincoln County, Lincoln Republican, Logan County, Lottie Lucas, Maggie Lucas, Melvin Kirk, Piney, Toney, Tucker Fry, West Virginia
“Violet,” a local correspondent from Toney in Lincoln County, West Virginia, offered the following items, which the Lincoln Republican printed on Thursday, March 2, 1911:
As “Ding Dong” seems to be silent of late, thought I would write you a few items from this place.
We are having pleasant weather and welcome it too.
Mrs. Brooke Adkins has returned to her school at Leet after a week’s absence.
Ervin Workman attended the burial of Melve Kirk of Piney last Sunday.
A number of our young men attended a very interesting meeting at Big Creek, Logan county on last Sunday.
A large quantity of ties are being shipped from this place.
Miss Dollie Toney closed a successful term of school at Big Creek on last Thursday.
Miss Lottie Lucas spent last week the guest of friends on Big Creek.
Mr. D.C. Fry returned home last Saturday from a business trip down the G.V. Railroad.
Some of our farmers say they are not going to try and raise tobacco this year, as they had hard luck with their crops last year.
Mr. and Mrs. Jas. Brumfield and Mrs. B.B. Lucas visited the latter’s sister Sunday.
Miss Delia Adkins spent Saturday night at her grandpa’s near Ferrellsburg.
Little Edna Brumfield was visiting Maggie Lucas Sunday.
17 Thursday Apr 2014
Posted in Big Harts Creek, Ferrellsburg, Yantus
Tags
Crawley Creek, education, Ferrellsburg, history, Lincoln County, Logan County, Logan Democrat, Sol Riddell, Striker, West Virginia, Yantus School

Logan (WV) Democrat, 12 January 1911.
17 Thursday Apr 2014
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Alphon Theater, Arthur Smith, Ashland, Ashland Vocational School, Bert Layne, blind, Blind Soldier, Catlettsburg, Cowboy Copas, Curly Wellman, David Miller, Ed Haley, Ella Haley, fiddling, Fleming County, Great Depression, Grimes Music Shop, Guyandotte Mockingbirds, Hawkshaw Hawkins, history, Horse Branch, Huntington, Kentucky, Logan, Logan Banner, music, Natchee the Indian, Old Shep, Red Foley, Riley Puckett, Rose Connelly, Skillet Lickers, Ward Hollow, West Virginia, Wilson Reeves, World War I, World War II, writing, WSAZ
Curly suggested that we visit Wilson Reeves, a local record collector, for more information about Ed. Wilson was glad to talk to us. He remembered seeing Ed and his family play on the streets of Ashland during World War II.
“This was in the early forties,” Wilson said. “I came up here to take training at the old Ashland Vocational School. I lived on Carter about 17th. There was a house there where I had a room upstairs. And every evening I’d cross over from Carter over to Winchester, go down Winchester, and on down to a little restaurant — what they call a ‘hole in the wall.’ Greasy food, but it was cheap. And she [meaning Ella] would be sitting in a chair there by the Presbyterian Church close to 16th Street. Most of the time she’d be playing the mandolin. Sometimes, I’d see her with the accordion. The little girl would stand on her side — I believe the 16th Street side — and she’d be holding the tin cup. I didn’t notice whether people put money in it or not.”
Where was Ed?
“Well, I don’t remember too much about them,” Wilson said. “I was twenty years old and other things to think about and on my way. Mr. Haley, I don’t remember whether he was sitting down or what. I’ve seen him over at the old Alphon Theater. He would sit right there. Best as I remember about him, he was by hisself. And there was times — and this is very vague in my memory — that I saw them get off the bus. They’d drag a chair out with them. Just a straight-backed chair, I believe. After the war was over, I went back to Fleming County for a while. Sometime in 1947 I came back up here, but I don’t recall ever seeing them any more.”
Wilson said he was never really acquainted with Ed or his family and was never at his home.
“Course I was in the house,” Curly said. “Poorly furnished. The family was rich in being family but very poor as far as living conditions. You might say if it was possible at that time, they would have been on food stamps.”
Curly was speaking of Ed’s home at Ward Hollow. I asked Wilson for some paper so I could sketch it out based on Curly’s memories. We started out with the living room.
“Just a square room,” Curly said. “No rug. A pine floor and a fireplace and a mantle and a little side table and his rocking chair and an old cane-backed straight chair. There was another doorway here that went into the next bedroom back. It was just an open door really. It was a shotgun house. I was never in their kitchen. They had about four rooms. But this was in a big building that there was a lot of apartments in — several apartments in this building — and Ed and his family lived downstairs in the first apartment as you went up the hollow. Big old community house — all wood — weather-boarded house. In my time, it mighta been sixty, seventy years old. They had a name for that building but it won’t come to me.”
When I’d finished my sketch of Ed’s home at Ward Hollow, I said to Curly, “Now what about his home at Horse Branch?”
“It was about a four room house — and one floor — and set up about six foot off a the ground because the creek run down through there and if they hadn’t a built it up on these sticks that it set on they woulda got flooded out every time it rained,” he said. “And you had to go up a long pair of steps to get up on their porch. Handrails down each side of the steps. Porch all the way across the front. I’d say the porch was six feet deep. I was never inside. In fact, the front room is as far as I was in the other house.”
Curly said he used to play music with Ed on the porch. Ed always sat to the right of everyone, probably so he wouldn’t have to worry about pulling his bow into them.
Wilson said Ed played with David Miller, a blind musician sometimes called “The Blind Soldier.” Miller (1893-1959) was originally from Ohio but settled at 124 Guyan Street in Huntington just prior to the First World War. He played on WSAZ, a Huntington station, with The Guyandotte Mockingbirds in the late 1920s and early 1930s. He also made it as far up the Guyan Valley as Logan where he hosted at least one fiddling contest.
“Saturday night, September 17th at 8 p.m., sharp at the court house, Logan, W.Va., David Miller, an old time recording artist, will open a real old time Fiddlers Contest, awarding three big cash prizes to contestants and one prize to best old time flat-foot dancer,” according a September 1927 article in the Logan Banner. “It is expected that this will be the season’s big meeting of old timers and lovers of old time music. See Miller at Grimes’ Music Shop Saturday afternoon.”
According to one source, Miller lost his radio job around 1933 after threatening to throw his manager through a window. Wilson heard that Ed taught Miller the tune “Rose Connelly”, as well as Red Foley’s “Old Shep”.
Aside from the Blind Soldier, there were several other well-known musicians working in Huntington during the Depression. In the mid-thirties, Riley Puckett and Bert Layne (two of the famous Skillet Lickers) spent a few months there, while Hawkshaw Hawkins, Cowboy Copas (a friend to Natchee the Indian), and Arthur Smith were featured acts during the World War II era.
16 Wednesday Apr 2014
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16 Wednesday Apr 2014
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Curly said he lost contact with Ed Haley in the mid-thirties (other than seeing him on a street corner or at court days).
“When I got about fourteen, fifteen years old, I went to playing around with younger musicians and I left Catlettsburg and I come down to Ashland,” he said. “I started playing bars at fifteen.”
Curly told me all about how he “rediscovered” Ed toward the end of the decade.
Along about 1937, we were working WCMI and Mother and I was talking one day and I asked her, I said, “Well Mother, do you know anything about Ed Haley or the Haley family or where they’re at? I haven’t heard from them in years.” And my mother told me, said, “Why, they live right up there at Ward Hollow.” I said, “Well, I didn’t know that.” See, what I used to do, I’d get lonesome to hear him. And I knew him and he knew my voice and he knew my mother and my father and all my brothers and sisters and I’d get lonesome to play with him. And I’d get a pint of “moon” — bought it from old Maude Johnson down there at 29th Street — and walk all the way to Ward Hollow. The front door was never locked. And when I’d open the door — I’d know where he was gonna be, in that rocking chair — I’d say, “Uncle Ed?” “Well Curly, come in.” And I’d go in — wouldn’t even carry a guitar or nothing — and I’d go in and I’d sit down. He’d go get the straight chair when he played, but he would be sitting in there. A little old fireplace. I’d say, “How are you, Uncle Ed?” “Well, I don’t feel so good today. I’m not as pure as I should be.” And I’d say, “Well, do you think maybe a little hooter…?” And he’d say, “Well, uh, yes.” Talked loud then. I’d say, “Well, I brought one along.” Moonshine. I’d go out and get it and come in and give it to him and he’d hit it.
We’d sit there and talk a little more — about this and that and the weather and so forth and so on — and I’d say, “You better getcha another little drink there, Ed. Maybe if you got a cold it’ll help you.” He’d hit it again and he’d sit there and all at once he’d say, “Say, did I ever play ‘Blackberry Blossom’ for ya?” And while he was saying this, he was getting up… He knew exactly where his fiddle was on the mantle, he knowed where the bow was on the mantle, and he never touched a thing that was on that mantle — just them two things. I never saw him finger for the fiddle: he always picked it up by the neck and got the bow with his right hand. And then he’d throw that fiddle under there — the chin was holding it — and he never even had a chin-rest — then he’d sit down and he’d say, “Well, you brought your old box along, didn’t ya?” I’d say, “Yeah, it’s out there in the car.” I think it was a D-18 Martin. Sixty-five bucks. Go get the guitar, come in, sit down, tune up with him. And that’s another thing about that man. I often wondered how he kept the fiddle at 440 tuning. I know he didn’t use a pitch pipe.
Curly said it was during that time that Ed met Bernice “Sweet Georgia” Brown, who he called “Brownie.” He elaborated: “Brownie’s father owned a business here, which was in the making of tombstones, right down on Winchester Avenue, and his mother was from Cartersville, Georgia. And he was a tremendous old-time… The old English fiddle tunes and a lot of that stuff — the hornpipes. He was just marvelous on them. He would’ve loved to have played jazz fiddle, but he didn’t have it. Because he was from Georgia, Big Foot said, ‘I’ll teach you how to play ‘Sweet Georgia Brown’, so from then on that was his name. We had him and Big Foot playing twin fiddles. During the time that he was here, I wanted him to hear Ed Haley. Neither one of us had a car at that time, but we were in walking distance of Ward Hollow, which was just up the road from me about eight, nine blocks. We’d walk up there and take a little hooter along and finally get him started. Well, Georgia wouldn’t pull a bow in front of Ed Haley, but he would watch him awful close. Every move — even the way he tuned the fiddle with his chin and his knee mostly. He was an amazing man.”
I asked Curly if Ed played “Sweet Georgia Brown” and he said, “Never. I don’t think he woulda even rosined his bow to play a thing like that.”
Thinking back about that time in his life caused Curly to talk about his personal memories of Ed.
“I had a lot of experiences with that old man. I loved the old man. Really loved him. He was a swell old man. He was a dear friend. So timid. He was easy to be around and knew a joke as quick as he heard it. He wasn’t boastful or pushy — just a very little timid man that would sit in the corner for hours. He let everything out with the fiddle. He turned everything loose that was inside and he done it with the instrument. I think his first love really was his music.”
I asked Curly if Ed got along with other fiddlers like Clayton McMichen and he said, “I don’t think he woulda even talked to him. When Clayton mouthed off like he did — and was all mouth — I just think Ed would have set back and not taken any part in anything. Brassy and forward — Clayton was awful bad for that. I didn’t care for Clayton McMichen myself other than I appreciated the group he had together, The Georgia Wildcats.”
15 Tuesday Apr 2014
15 Tuesday Apr 2014
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“Ding Dong,” a local correspondent from Toney in Lincoln County, West Virginia, offered the following items, which the Lincoln Republican printed on Thursday, January 26, 1911:
Winter still remains and there is lots of sickness in this vicinity. The Doctors are kept quite busy.
Miss Lottie Lucas closed her school on Hart Saturday. She gave general satisfaction in her school work in the report.
Fisher B. Adkins, of Ferrellsburg was a caller here Sunday.
Miss Leona Pauley visited Miss Maggie and Lottie Lucas Sunday.
The Lucas Bros. are hauling some fine timber for Ward Baisden.
Born: To Mr. and Mrs. John Lambert, Friday, a big girl.
K.E. Toney and Anthony Fry killed a fine fox Saturday.
Peter M. Toney made a business trip to Leet Monday.
John Toney, of Rector, was a business visitor here Monday.
Ed Reynolds, the “war horse” Republican of Leet, bought a fine yoke of oxen from Keenan Toney Saturday. Paid $1200.
J.B. Toney, of Big Creek, was visiting here Sunday.
Irvin Workman made a business trip to the West Fork of Hart, Saturday.
B.B. Lucas passed here Saturday with a fine gang of cattle.
Miss Ettie Baisden visited here Friday.
K.E. Toney’s new residence is nearing completion.
If this escapes the waste basket, will come again next week.
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